Hei, jeg har blitt saksøkt fra en kar i danmark..
Skal forklare.
Først lager jeg en bruker på siden bookhltv.org. Plutselig ser jeg at jeg har full tilgang til admin panelet der du kan lage alt fra poller til nyheter, alt er åpent. Jeg roter litt rundt og finner fram til nyhetsystemet og gjør meg selv til admin, selv om jeg allerede er det, for å teste. Jeg tenker da å ha det litt gøy og tar å legger ut en rick roll video som en nyhet på en ny bruker som jeg kaller Rick Astley. Denne også med full admin tilgang uten at jeg har bedt om det på noe vis eller gjort noe "ulovelig" for å tilegne meg de rettighetene.
Jeg prøvde heller ikke å skjule ip adressen min, men har ikke gitt ut noe informasjon som kan lede til meg som ekte navn osv.
Mail vi har vekslet til nå:
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Tomorrow, our lawyer will contact the police in Denmark and Norway
to file a police report against you for take advantage of an error
on our website instead of making us aware of it.
You have created two users the one in order to be able to come back
and abusing our side.
We have copied all the logs from the side which will be used as
evidence.
We hope you have a great lawyer to support you.
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Mads ”fEx” Juhler
CEO
BookHLTV.org
Højgade 2
6100 Haderslev
Denmark
Web: www.BookHLTV.org
Mail: mads@bookhltv.org
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From: bhltv@hush.com
To: mads@bookhltv.org
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:45:12 +0000
This message is not encrypted, and is not digitally signed.
Well, i dont really belive that the norwegian police will make a
case of this, and this is why:
- I didnt break any of youre security systems, all of youre admin
tools layed straight out in the open, first on the real acount, and
then on the fake, and thats no coinsidense.
- It was a prank (RickRoll), wich isnt going far in the law system
beacause it havent done any damage for youre company (i checked the
counter and noone exept me saw it before you removed it). And again
i havent done annything illeagal to "break" into youre site, so you
still have nothing.
- If you get youre lawyer to read a litle about earlier cyber
crimes in norway, you would know that to get personal information
out of an IP from an ISP is litterally impossible. Its like getting
a warant in the USA, you need rock hard evidence that i have done
something wrong, or have done something to break into youre system.
So you have litterally alreaddy lost the case allready there.
- And you have noe Terms of Use/EULA when registering, so it
doesent say ANNYTHING about now releasing news and that kind of
stuff. Already there you have failed. You gave me a site that was
totally open, and i had no restrictions when i registered legaly.
- But if you still want to try this case im more than happy to play
this game, it will be fun to watch you pay my lawyer because you
lost the case.
Well, there is another solution to our problem:
If you can guarantee me that you wont go to no authorities with
this, i can keep silent about you threathining me with a lawsuit
because of a rickroll on youre extremely open company site.
I think it would make great headlines if i went public with this
and all the information i got about youre open site and my
rickroll. (I have screenshots too of the admin panel so, and you
got it in youre logs).
-----------------------------
You just go public, we don't care.
You abused a bug on the site and that is illegal.
You are a fool to abuse the site instead of reporting the problem to us.
Our lawyer WILL contact the Danish police and file a police report against
you.
We don't think you "prank" was fun in any way!
The fact that you made you first account to a developer user shows the fact
that you had a plan on returning to the site and abuse it again!
I am sorry but we have to follow the procedure that our lawyer tells us.
BookHLTV.org - Free HLTV hosting
Web: www.BookHLTV.org - E-mail: email@bookhltv.org
---------------------------------
Hva tror dere, er jo i noen reel fare for å bli saksøkt på noe vis? Har ikke god peil på lover og regler når det kommer til internett.
Skal forklare.
Først lager jeg en bruker på siden bookhltv.org. Plutselig ser jeg at jeg har full tilgang til admin panelet der du kan lage alt fra poller til nyheter, alt er åpent. Jeg roter litt rundt og finner fram til nyhetsystemet og gjør meg selv til admin, selv om jeg allerede er det, for å teste. Jeg tenker da å ha det litt gøy og tar å legger ut en rick roll video som en nyhet på en ny bruker som jeg kaller Rick Astley. Denne også med full admin tilgang uten at jeg har bedt om det på noe vis eller gjort noe "ulovelig" for å tilegne meg de rettighetene.
Jeg prøvde heller ikke å skjule ip adressen min, men har ikke gitt ut noe informasjon som kan lede til meg som ekte navn osv.
Mail vi har vekslet til nå:
------------------------------
Tomorrow, our lawyer will contact the police in Denmark and Norway
to file a police report against you for take advantage of an error
on our website instead of making us aware of it.
You have created two users the one in order to be able to come back
and abusing our side.
We have copied all the logs from the side which will be used as
evidence.
We hope you have a great lawyer to support you.
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Mads ”fEx” Juhler
CEO
BookHLTV.org
Højgade 2
6100 Haderslev
Denmark
Web: www.BookHLTV.org
Mail: mads@bookhltv.org
----------------------------
From: bhltv@hush.com
To: mads@bookhltv.org
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:45:12 +0000
This message is not encrypted, and is not digitally signed.
Well, i dont really belive that the norwegian police will make a
case of this, and this is why:
- I didnt break any of youre security systems, all of youre admin
tools layed straight out in the open, first on the real acount, and
then on the fake, and thats no coinsidense.
- It was a prank (RickRoll), wich isnt going far in the law system
beacause it havent done any damage for youre company (i checked the
counter and noone exept me saw it before you removed it). And again
i havent done annything illeagal to "break" into youre site, so you
still have nothing.
- If you get youre lawyer to read a litle about earlier cyber
crimes in norway, you would know that to get personal information
out of an IP from an ISP is litterally impossible. Its like getting
a warant in the USA, you need rock hard evidence that i have done
something wrong, or have done something to break into youre system.
So you have litterally alreaddy lost the case allready there.
- And you have noe Terms of Use/EULA when registering, so it
doesent say ANNYTHING about now releasing news and that kind of
stuff. Already there you have failed. You gave me a site that was
totally open, and i had no restrictions when i registered legaly.
- But if you still want to try this case im more than happy to play
this game, it will be fun to watch you pay my lawyer because you
lost the case.
Well, there is another solution to our problem:
If you can guarantee me that you wont go to no authorities with
this, i can keep silent about you threathining me with a lawsuit
because of a rickroll on youre extremely open company site.
I think it would make great headlines if i went public with this
and all the information i got about youre open site and my
rickroll. (I have screenshots too of the admin panel so, and you
got it in youre logs).
-----------------------------
You just go public, we don't care.
You abused a bug on the site and that is illegal.
You are a fool to abuse the site instead of reporting the problem to us.
Our lawyer WILL contact the Danish police and file a police report against
you.
We don't think you "prank" was fun in any way!
The fact that you made you first account to a developer user shows the fact
that you had a plan on returning to the site and abuse it again!
I am sorry but we have to follow the procedure that our lawyer tells us.
BookHLTV.org - Free HLTV hosting
Web: www.BookHLTV.org - E-mail: email@bookhltv.org
---------------------------------
Hva tror dere, er jo i noen reel fare for å bli saksøkt på noe vis? Har ikke god peil på lover og regler når det kommer til internett.
Sist endret av cbg90; 17. august 2008 kl. 11:33.