Meg igjen, med den helvettes dritt dataen min (elsk/hat situasjon. gulldata, men ting funker ikke).

Nå har jeg akkurat laga en 20gig xp partisjon, klar til å legge inn, men så finner ikke dos harddiskene mine pga. sata.
Har en HP dv9575eo

1. Hvor finner jeg s-ata drivere til denne?

2. Hvordan får jeg desse inn i bios da jeg ikke har diskettstasjon? tar dos usb'tingyer ?

De kan da vel ikke seriøst lage det så sinnsykt bare for å legge inn windows på en data, eller så har jeg misset noe her...

HP er en skikkelig luremus.. Kan virke som de har kontrakter med microsoft (selv om de decliner) at de skal få folk til bare å bruke vista.

Samtale med en HP engineer på online live support:


Safford: Hello blindheim1.
Safford: Welcome to HP Total Care for Pavilion Notebooks.
My name is Safford. How may I assist you today?
Safford: How are you doing today?

blindheim1: hello I talked to you guys yesterday.
I'm installing windows xp on my 9575eo notebook (currently running
vista home premium 32bit). The windows installation wouldn't find my harddrive,
so I contacted support. I was told to F10 - enter bios setup, choose the
"System Configuration" tab and disable the Native SATA support
Safford: Please go ahead with the query.
Safford: Alright.
blindheim1: that would make windows find the harddrive,
but the problem is my BIOS has no such function
Safford: Let me explain this.
blindheim1: nothing that would even look like it.
I'm running the Phoenix Bios v. F.09 (serial: cnf73065f3)
Safford: Alright.
Safford: Let me explain this.
Safford: As this series notebook models are especially designed for the
as this option is not available with the series.

As we have received many requests from the customers to get the option
to install Windows XP on the notebook, we have escalated this to our
research & development team & once this option is available this will
be notified to the customers having these series notebooks through email
& will be same be posted on the website.

blindheim1: so it is not possible? isn't that against the marketing
laws? I've bought an expensive surround system from creative that just
doesn't work with vista, and I
need to install xp.. I have made 2 partitions, and will
keep both. (they're both paid for, and I wish to use them. I still like
the vista mediasenter and will keep that OS aswell)
Safford: I can understand your concern.
blindheim1: is there no way to do this ?
Safford: Hp doesnot recommend installing retail OS in the note book and
this series notebook models are especially designed for the Windows Vista,
it is not advisable to install XP on this notebook model as this option is
not available with the series.

blindheim1: windows vista is at current stage a virus for gamers.
It drains about 700 ram from my world of warcraft, and decreases performance a lot.
Safford: Inorder to install retail OS need to disable SATA, this notebook
doesnot have the option to disable as this notebook doesnot support.
blindheim1: will there ever be a support?

Safford: Already we have forwarded this to our research department
and we need to wait till this option is updated for this notebook.

blindheim1: have HP made some sort of contract with microsoft,
trying to make more users turn to the vista platform ?
blindheim1: by declining them xp
blindheim1: since performance wise, vista will never be able to
match xp on notebooks with these specifications
Safford:blindheim1, I can understand how testing the situation couldb be.
There is no such contract with Microsoft. This notebook model only doesnot
support installing XP as this model is made for Vista.


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Senere snakket jeg med en ny engineer, quotet denne samtalen og truet med å anmelde HP for brudd på marketsføringsloven og monopol-loven. Sa at jeg lett kunne saksøke, og at microsoft alt hadde tapt 1 lignende sak. Sa at pappa eier et stort konsern, og at det ikke skal stå på penger om jeg går til sak.

Da ble han med ett litt mere ydmyk, og sa at det fantest vel en måte. Så gav han meg en link til en driver på en jævla hidden hp ftp server, og en oppskrift på å adde denne med en diskett.
+ han sa jeg kunne prøve å laste ned en SP2 aktivert windowscd fra TPB :P

snakk om eid HP-mann





"This notebook model only doesnot
support installing XP as this model is made for Vista." FFS !!! ???

- usb-floppy med drivere på diskett
- F6 rett etter "setup is inspecting your computers hardware configuration"

Desverre ingen vei utenom, tro meg.
Og hvis du er veldig uheldig vil ikke windows setup finne usb-floppyen den andre gangen under installasjonen den trenger den.

Lykke til

Testet mer. Prøvde å legge driveren på et minnekort i kortleser men det viste seg at jeg ikke fikk vite om det virket :/ går ikke å trykke F6 når jeg skal (har testa, og alle andre knapper funker). Virker som F6 ikke kan trykkes når det står at den skal. Jeg spammer som pokker, og ingenting skjer

edit: kontaktet online support igjen. Nytt svar:

blindheim1 - "stiller spørsmålet mitt på nytt, forklarer ALLE omstendigheter"

<går ca.15 minutter>

Sherry: Thank you for your time and patience.
Sherry: I have checked you previous chat session and your Notebook specification.

Sherry: I regret to say that Disable Sata native feature is not avilable in your Notebook Model.
Sherry: And this feature will not allow you to install Operating System other then the one shipped with your Notebook.
Sherry: So I reuqest you to proceed with preinstalled Vista Operating system.

blindheim1: so there is absolutely NO way I can change my OS ? what about the SATA drivers on other unit (floppy, mmc etc.) ?

blindheim1: Locking an OS like that without giving any notice on the box must be against the marceting laws! Didn't microsoft just get convicted for breaking the rules according to denying other companys marketshares? As far as I'm aware, HP can't deny me installing other OS's than vista! athleast not without putting it in the purchase contract
Sherry: Let me check the web link provided earlier.

<nye 5 minutter>


Sherry: Thank you for your time and patience.
Sherry: I have checked the web link provided.
Sherry: I apologize for the inconvenience caued to you in this regard.
Sherry: As a work arround to resovle this issue you have give that driver to install/
Sherry: However since that too fils, I am sory to say that there is no option avilbe with us to disable Sata and to install XP on your Notebook/
Sherry: I hope you understand our concern.

blindheim1: I must say I have trouble understanding.. since the function is present on all previuos HK's HP's ever made, I can't see why you have removed it, or why it should be a problem re-inserting it in a quick bios update. Especially since HP's one of the leading manufactorers of notebooks, locking the computers to 1 specific OS sounds extremely weard. That means I can't even install linux on my computer?

Sherry: Since the Notebook was specally designed for Vista Operating System, we could not be able to install XP or any other Operating system on it.

blindheim1: specally designed ? I wouln't say this computer is even fast enough for vista (perhaps if I upgrade to 4gb ram). in world of warcraft, vista eats more than 700 ram all the time (!) which often causes large amounts of lagging

< STYRKE, HERREGUD, GI MEG STYRKE! jææævla idioter >

Sherry: I do understand the gravity of the situation you are facing.
Sherry: However I regret to say that the we dont have the option to disable Sata native feature and to install XP or any other Operating system in your Notebook.

blindheim1: all I get from support is how much you understand me, but this is really lame. I'm sry, its probably not your fault, but I can't really put words to my emotions without seriously making a fool of my self, in due to probably hurt som online support persons feelings. I'll be back...

blindheim1: but I must say; tricking customers like this is a REALLY low move from Hp. I would have expected better from such a veteran

Sherry: I realize your situation, since we dont have the option, we request you to proceed with Vista.

blindheim1: I'm so filing charges..
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hvor kan jeg klage, og hvilke lovbrudd er det HP her begår? Microsoft tapte akkurat en lignende sak angående presse andre ut av markedet + brudd på monopol loven. Kan jeg melde HP/Microsoft windows vista inn for høyeste rett etc. ?

Fikk det til slutt.. laget min egen xpcd med nLite (innebygd sp2), inkluderte SATA driver i xp cden og fikk opp xp. Nå var ikke vista lenger tilgjengelig, så jeg måtte lage til grub for linux til å starte opp, + forandre boot.ini og noen andre configs på root av vistadisken.

Nå funker alt fint


Mushy: jeg synest det er en ganske vill konspirasjon å openriktig sitte å fortelle meg at de har sperret pcen min for alt annet en vista.. Siden de har en slik stilling, burde de kunne nok med data til å vite at det de sier er feil. Å prøve å lure folk slik synest jeg er litt lavt